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Who is the best player in the NBA today?
I know most of you will say kobe, but listen to what i'm asking, best PLAYER, kobe is the best athelete but i dont think he is the best player.
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I think steve nash is the best PLAYER, kobe is great, better scorer than nash, but nash is smarter as a PLAYER(knows when to score, and when to pass a.k.a he is a better decision maker), better team PLAYER. Kobe is the best athelete, best scorer, hell maybe even best shooter(from everywhere), but i dont think he is the best PLAYER.
PHX_MAN_MARIO
MVP
AVG:
2.6
Ratings: 5
13
7/8/2007 4:36 AM ET
why do ppl keep argueing about this.........every analysizts and player and coach even says Kobe is the best player in the world....look it p on u tube of you dont believe me.... under "lebron talks about Kobe" u will get ur proof there.
kg91
Hall of Fame
AVG:
2.6
Ratings: 5
13
7/8/2007 1:23 PM ET
I don't know if Kobe is the best shooter from anywhere ahead of Ray Allen,Micheal Redd,Dirk Nowitzki.and a couple of others but Kobe is not the best player in the league and especially not the world I know a whole lot of ppl will disagree with me but I say Allen Iverson not because he's may favorite player because he is a scoring playmaker at 32 still faster and quicker then the majority of the league and has shown numerous times he is a very good team player 15assists doesn't come from a ballhog and oh yeah he also had 44pts in that game he's been an elite player ever since he came into the league breaking Wilt Chamberlain's Record of 4 straight 40 games as a rookie and in my mind Philly should retire the #3 for 1 of the greatest players to ever pick up a basketball
LUDAKRIS07
Pro
AVG:
2
Ratings: 3
6
7/8/2007 2:03 PM ET
Although being swept in the finals , LeBron defeated the second best team in the NBA alone ,Detroit
Pistons
, and makes his mediocre team mates much better players. I'm a laker fan and Kobe is amazing athlete but not the most valuable to his team.
yossishm
Rookie
AVG:
2.8
Ratings: 4
11
7/8/2007 3:07 PM ET
Im with LUDAKRIS Allen Iverson is the best, Every body is in love with Kobe ever since he scored 50 points 4 straight games or w/e, but anybody remember last year when Iverson got snubbed from the Olympic selection and he went on a rampage 3 straight games of 40 points and 10 assists yea Kobe has never came close to that. Iversons a warrior always playing through injuries, diving on the floor for every loose ball and if Kobes the best athlete how come Iverson is always way above everyone else in minutes. How many other NBA players have been in the top ten in scoring, assists and steals most of their career? not many defenitly not kobe. And the best player in the world outta have a MVP trophy huh, oh Kobe doesnt thats becuz his only playoff success was Shaq and without Shaq kobe just blames everything on his team, all Kobe is an arrogant MJ wannabee. Lets wait till Kobe is 31 and see if he has a 44 and 15 game and in that game Iverson shot 16 for 22 think about that a six foot player that gets doubled and tripled everytime he touches the ball shooting 16 for 22 and getting 15 assists, Kobe gets double and tripled teamed everynight too but still cant learn how to get assists. And if you watched AI in Denver last year he committs on the defensive end now and can lockdown other gaurds with his quickness And Steve Nash is not the best player he is a great player but he plays with a team of allstars everybody can shoot 3's and finish at the rim getting assists cant be that hard and Nash cant score without his whole team setting screens for him allnight, he has no 1 on 1 ability at all.
KillaCrossover49011
All-Star
AVG:
2.7
Ratings: 3
8
7/8/2007 4:36 PM ET
I have liked Kobe ever since he entered the league and he is the best hands down...then d-wade,then kg, then Lebron.....Lebron would be higher except he has barely any d,crappy freethrows and is not clutch.
kg91
Hall of Fame
AVG:
2.6
Ratings: 5
13
7/8/2007 5:00 PM ET
no killacrossover, nash makes them all stars(except marion), when nash is gone, none of them play like allstars except marion, when nash is gone they are garbage, nash comes in and sets them up so great, if you put him on any team he could make anybody an all star.
PHX_MAN_MARIO
MVP
AVG:
2.3
Ratings: 4
9
7/8/2007 5:36 PM ET
PHX_MAN_MARIO Amare was already a beast b4 Nash came in so I guess nash made him a all-star too
LUDAKRIS07
Pro
AVG:
1.8
Ratings: 4
7
7/8/2007 5:40 PM ET
amare was a beast before the surgery, i love amare and all, but he only relies off that flying dunk, off the pick n roll with nash, he doesnt have back to the basket moves, amazing dunker and ok shooter but thats it.
PHX_MAN_MARIO
MVP
AVG:
3
Ratings: 3
9
7/8/2007 10:19 PM ET
even though i hate to say it if his peers say it, then he is the best player in the nBA..kobe
Italian Stallion
Commissioner
AVG:
2.3
Ratings: 3
7
7/9/2007 12:44 AM ET
nash is the best decision maker in the game but people want to know the best player and it has to be kobe,with the defensive and offensive accomplishments he has.AI is good,but over the past 3-4 years kobe has overshadowed him.who killed his dream of an NBA title.KOBE
Lucious
Commissioner
AVG:
1
Ratings: 2
2
7/9/2007 1:07 AM ET
No, lucious, SHAQ killed that dream, Kobe woulnt have won those games without shaq, if they faced off with those same rosters(minus shaq), the
sixers
would have murdered them, why? because of ai, derek fisher, kobe, rick fox, robert horry, center unknown, vs Eric Snow, Allen Iverson, Aaron mckie, i dont remember the pf, but the center was matt geiger. i would take the
sixers
in that matchup
PHX_MAN_MARIO
MVP
AVG:
3.3
Ratings: 3
10
7/9/2007 3:02 AM ET
Both of you guys are right Lucious is riight that AI used to be the poster-boy of the league but after his MVP season his media attention dropped alot, but if you watched the beginning of the 06-07 season where a couple of teams had their training camp and preseason games in Europe during the games everyother fan had an Iverson jersey, no Bryants, but hell no Kobe didnt kill Iverson's dream of a title, did you see Kobes team, all veterans and not to mention Shaquille Oneal and did you see Iversons 500. team that HE carried to the finals as the Most Valuable Player in the NBA?, OK if you switch Dikembe Mutumbo to LA and Shaq to Philly who do you think would have won that series? Shaq was that LA team not Kobe and MARIO the starting lineup was AI, Aaron Mckie, Jumaine Jones, Tyrone Hill and Dikembe Mutumbo and yes the
Sixers
would have killed em if Shaq wasnt playing, and wait till next year when Iverson is 32 and still outrunning everybody and playing the most minutes and Denver is in the NBA finals, while Kobes blaming his downfall on his team
KillaCrossover49011
All-Star
AVG:
2.5
Ratings: 2
5
7/9/2007 3:49 AM ET
its lebron, hes the better team player and he scores almost exactly the same as kobe, and wtf are u talking about kg91?? how is lebron not clutch and has no D??? did u even watch the game in the conference semis when he scored the last like 25 points??? and he averages 2 staels and 1 block a game u ignorant dumass
hellchild5
Rookie
AVG:
2.8
Ratings: 4
11
7/9/2007 4:18 AM ET
hell child I think ur ignorant...watch those 2 videos on Lebron on Kobe....u willl get ur prof there that he is better..and even Patriley says Kobe is right up there with jordan....so shut the Fu#k up u dumbshit
kg91
Hall of Fame
AVG:
2.6
Ratings: 5
13
7/9/2007 12:49 PM ET
If Kobe was the best player he would win MVP everyyear. Kobe is the best scorer and for some reason if you score alot that makes you one of the best. Even if you hardly ever pass the ball even though you have odom who is a really good player. When Kobe scores 50 points they still just bearly win, and as a matter of fact they have lost before whene he scores over 50. Wade, Nash, even Lebron can all score alot but they decided to pass. Like when it was wade vs James they each had over 40points, 9 rebounds, and 10 assist. So kobe can get 50, with takin execive shots, with 3assist if that, and 5 or 6 rebounds. I mean come on. If you take 100shots in a game you tend to score alot.
1Jax
All-Star
AVG:
2.5
Ratings: 2
5
7/9/2007 4:01 PM ET
kg91 is right about the part where Lebron chokes at the ft line. He really does, even in the 5th game of east confrence finals he still missed like 7shots outta 10ish the last 4th quarter ot. So at the line hes not clutch at all.
1Jax
All-Star
AVG:
3
Ratings: 1
3
7/9/2007 4:04 PM ET
1jax...kobe would have gotten MVP every year if only the f-ing ppl would forget abouit colorado any everyone knows that.also Lamar does prett much suck...he is never consistent...he has like 1 good game out of like 5. unlike Lebron or wade who both have good playersw on thier team..and nash who has practically the whole western conference all star team on his roster.
kg91
Hall of Fame
AVG:
3
Ratings: 4
12
7/9/2007 4:28 PM ET
and what the hel are u talking about kobe only averagesw 20 shots a game not 40 u dumbass.
kg91
Hall of Fame
AVG:
3
Ratings: 4
12
7/9/2007 5:33 PM ET
I know ask any one in the nba and they all say kobe bryant hes unstopable all he has to do is turn on a switch and make 50 points or more and when he does pass noone can make any thing kobe is the best in the world not even close
sean D. aka skis
Rookie
AVG:
2.3
Ratings: 3
7
7/9/2007 7:24 PM ET
O yea, he flips a switch and makes 50pts yet bearly wins the game or winds up losin. And his team can make shots but there never gonna get better if they never get da dang ball. and Kobe took 1800shots the one closest to him was like 1200 thats 600 more shots are u kiddin me kg91 i didnt really mean 40 shots i was exating but u get my point. DUMBASS!
1Jax
All-Star
AVG:
2.5
Ratings: 2
5
7/9/2007 9:45 PM ET
UP ABOVE U HAVE COACHES AND PLAYERS...YES EVEN LEBRON SAYING KOBE IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WOLRD SO STOP ARGUEING ABOUT THIS UR JUST A STUBBORN DICKFACE.
kg91
Hall of Fame
AVG:
3.7
Ratings: 3
11
7/9/2007 10:55 PM ET
haha funny caliing me a dmbass and saying his team is good...are u serious..kwAME CANT MAKE A LAYUP,ODOM ISNT CONSISTENT,MO EVANS MISSES JUST ABOUT EVERY OPEN SHOT,BYNUM IS TOO YOUGN,AND WALTN IS ALMOST TOO AFRAID TO SHOOT...ALSO lEBRON TRIED 1627 ATTEMPTS SO DONT SAY KOBE IS A BALLHOG IF LEBRON WAS JUST BEHIND HIM,ALSO VINCE CARTER PUT UP OVER 1600 SO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT U PIECE OF SH#T.
kg91
Hall of Fame
AVG:
5
Ratings: 2
10
7/9/2007 10:58 PM ET
read my shyt and tell me im wrong KG91
KillaCrossover49011
All-Star
AVG:
3
Ratings: 1
3
7/10/2007 12:08 AM ET
AI is greta but he is past his prime..there is no way anyone can say AI is better then kobe or wade or lebron....no way.
kg91
Hall of Fame
AVG:
3.7
Ratings: 3
11
7/10/2007 12:47 AM ET
are you saying Ai cant dominate a game like Kobe, Iverson dominates both as a scorer and playmaker, if kobe gets 30 points hes not getting more than 3 assists, I've seen kobe have 10plus assist games but in those games he hardly ever shoots, hes one dimensional he cant do both consistently and dont tell me that nobody nobody on the
lakers
team can score either i dont wanna hear that shyt, AI has matured into the ultimate offensive player that dominates a game consistently both by passing and scoring, wait till next year after training camp when the
Nuggets
build chemistry and Iverson averages 10plus assists, around thirty points and leads the league in steals, then tell me that you would rather have stupid ass arrogant Kobe Bryant on your team instead of Allen muthafukkin Iverson and Iversons team that he carried all the way to the finals was a worse supporting cast than Kobe has now, Kobe doesnt know how to be a franchise player, his only success was when he had another superstar as the franchise player, i think you know who that would be, hey it seems that every player that has won a title with Shaq on their team are the best players in the world huh your so stuck on Kobe and Wade and sure Kobe doesnt like his team, but did you ever wonder how much his team likes him? Franchise players are supposed to lead their teams not try to be the team
KillaCrossover49011
All-Star
AVG:
3
Ratings: 2
6
7/10/2007 1:31 AM ET
Yeah i dont know what i was thinkin bout the shots, I was thinkin bout kg had took 600lessshot and shot as good as % as him. And Kobe has attempted 47shots in a game before and that was when he had Shaq, and this year he took 45 in a game before2. The most Wade ever took was 36 when he had the shoot out with Lebron who wade nearly had a triple double. Chauncy Billups most he ever took was24. VC most was 36 with a terrible team in memhpis. Nash's was 26. And i doubt Mj ever took 1800shots in a season. Not only that but you have to have atleast a decent team to make it to the playoffs in the west. And if Kobe never won those 3championships none of you would say Kobe is the best. You would probably say well best player Shaq, Duncan, Wade, KG, Nash and Kidd. And shaq is still a force out there. when wade went out they just made it to the 8th seed. Now I know Gilbert got hurt a couple weeks later, but none the less he got them all the way back up to 4thplace in the east.
1Jax
All-Star
AVG:
1
Ratings: 1
1
7/10/2007 1:47 AM ET
Killa is has a good point 2. AI is one of the best in the leauge aswell, and now that he has melo, they get it on track there gonna be a force. I think Kobe is the better "scorer" but ai is the better "PLAYER" so is wade, nash, shaq, so on and so. And just because everyone says Kobe is hands down the best its only because he scores the most and won 3championships. (becuz of shaq and shaq alone) You see Kobe has less pts and rebounds in the playoffs then Shaq who is a center becuz the way kg91 speaks he doesnt quite get it. kobe has good game, his team has bad. If kobe does bad his team does ok. There never gonna be a powerhouse in the east with only 1 superstar, BUT he does have a good team they just arent superstars. But i dont get why people think if kobe gets a superstar that its gonna work or atleast rightaway. I mean, kidd and carter. they havent done nothing and those 2 are some of the biggest stars in the game atspecially when they first got on the team. But there is an expection when it took shaq and wade there second year to win it, and they would have gone the year before but shaq and wade got hurt and they wound up losin. But my point again is Shaq lead that team aswell, even though in the NBA Finals Wade just took over and crushed dallas atspecially in the 4th quarter it was shaq that really got them there. So what ever team you put Shaq on is going to do pretty good and going to elevate his team. Everyone said o0o dis and dat bout
heat
were too old to play yet shaq gets in takes over gets 4th seed, mournin came in 2nd in shot blocks and hes a bak up. I mean little things like that not to mention the year before they won it all. But either way Kobe is the best ball hog in the game ill put it like that happy?
1Jax
All-Star
AVG:
3.7
Ratings: 3
11
7/10/2007 2:00 AM ET
your good
KillaCrossover49011
All-Star
AVG:
3
Ratings: 2
6
7/10/2007 2:17 AM ET
How many first team all defensive awards does ai have? Kobe is the only player who plays the guard position who dominates BOTH sides of the ball..GAME OVER..Im looking at every column on here and all im seeing is AI better than kobe, vince better, Lebron better, d wade better... but as much as all of yall hate him, he is the only one you compare all your favorite players to..Lets face it gentlemen, he sets the bar for the nba now..Not hype not endorsements..Just ball..
genius57
MVP
AVG:
3
Ratings: 2
6
7/10/2007 2:17 AM ET
i was waiting for you to join this genius, look at the title it pretty much says whos better than Kobe. how many times has kobe led the league in steals and how many times hasnt AI in his career? AI locksdown gaurds wth his quicks everytime ive seen him play in Denver, I know in Philly he never played any defense or boxed out or anything but now he commits on defense and i saw him shutdown Richard Hamilton this year and i dont know why he wasnt gaurding Tony Parker in the playoffs or he would have stopped his penetration and how many 5'11 guys have ever made the all defensive team? no matter what Ai does hes too short to make an all defensive team
KillaCrossover49011
All-Star
AVG:
2.3
Ratings: 3
7
7/10/2007 2:30 AM ET