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He had an outstanding night, If he keeps it up, along with Lebron...Watch out for the Cavs.
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2/12/2008 11:32 AM ET

It was unbelieveable! As a Cavs fan I have been very disapointed with Hughes' performance, this was a great game for him and he has been playing well in the past week. I hope he can keep it up, with all the injuries that the Cavs are suffering from it's time for someone to step up big time or else the Cavs are in trouble. I'm glad to see Hughes trying to do this.
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/12/2008 2:04 PM ET

I told yall..Larry Hughes...Everybody said he wasnt good anymore.And I said lebron had planty of help..he doesent get many opportunities to shoot and he has gotten mad because they wont let him be the star he should be..Cleveland has a excellent team..All of you were yelling it was just Lebron..
genius57  MVP 
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2/12/2008 2:36 PM ET

your an idiot, he had one good game. He has actually shot the ball 428 times which isn't bad, he actually doesn't even deserve that many shots. He is a terrible shooter only shooting 36% from the field. You are straight up wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Also, you honestly think that Hughes should be the star. This comment only exploits your crazy and twisted views on things. Once again, your crazy.
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/12/2008 8:44 PM ET

kgreene03 tell us how you really feel. Hughes is a pro basketball player so he should have the ability to put up big numbers but this shows what a dog he is on most nights.
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2/12/2008 10:36 PM ET

More than that..Remember the 36 he had earlier this year? You ride lebrons balls so hard, you dont even know the capabilities of your own players..Skip bayless said the exact same thing..You have 2 potential 20 point scorers in big z and Hughes..Excellent rebounders in Gooden and Varrejo, and excellent 3 point shooters in Jones and Gibson..He has one of the best supporting casts in the NBA.. They just dont get opportunities...Only time they do is on defense, which they are also good at...tell me im wrong..And I said a star, not the star..Pao is still a star in LA..Kobe isnt running him out of the offense like Lebron does to Hughes..P.S. What did Lebron shoot in the finals? What % did he shoot? But he was still shooting wasnt he? He stunk it up big time in the finals..
genius57  MVP 
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2/12/2008 10:59 PM ET

He had two good games all year....thats all you've got...pathetic. I will level with you about Ilgauskas. The only problem is is that he can't play the kind of minutes that allow him to get 20 points because he is so old. He requested of Mike Brown to cut some of his minutes so your wrong there. Hughes's 36% from the floor tells me that your wrong there as well. Also if runs everybody out of the offense how come nobody's production went up when LeBron was out for the 6 games, since Hughes is such a star you think his numbers would've gone up......nope. They went 0-6. And don't give me crap about Kobe not running people out on offense. Kobe ran the most dominant center ever out of LA and everyone else for the past 5 years. Your wrong.
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/13/2008 11:29 AM ET

No he didnt..It already came out thet Buss didnt want Shaq anymore..Kobe had nothing to do with that..36%? 428 shots? in over 50 games? Whats that? 7, 8 shots a game?..Like I said, he didnt get opportunities..Lebron got plenty of opportunities in the finals..Didnt do sh%#! So give Hughes some opportunities and he will produce..And it seems your team is getting a little unhappy with your pouting star as he is starting to treat his teammates a little funny..Like against my Lakers..shot 32 times scored 41 points, 4 assts..He has a great team..use them...You have 2 or 3 people on that team whos capable of scoring 30 on any night..Gibson, Hughes, Ilgauskas..Before the Trade to get Pao, who othr than Kobe on La had the potential to score 30? the closest is odom and thats shaky at best..Just showing you who was doing more with less..And they are running him out of the offense..They hardly ever run any plays for him, and he is talented enough for that..Even jordans bulls ran plays for pippen time to time..
genius57  MVP 
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2/13/2008 11:32 AM ET

everything you said is complete bullsh!t. I can't argue with something that is so stupid. You don't know enough about the Cavaliers to be having this disscusion with me. I don't even know how you can be saying all of this when your a Kobe fan either. It's insane, your insane, your wrong, get over it. P.S. Hughes was out for about a month in the beginning of the season. He's only played in 37 games. He's had his oppurtunities. Nice try.
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/13/2008 1:43 PM ET

He needs more opportunities then, because Lebron isnt complete yet..He is good, but not all everything..You can say whatever you want, but you are a Lebron fan..Kobe does wayyy more with less..Kobe until Gasol came had less overall talent, won in a harder confrence against better players, and is the best overall player than Lebron..he just goes to his right for a drive and dunks..Just starting to get a jumpshot..hes not a solid one on one shutdown defender, and you know about him in the finals when it really counts...Kobe MVP...
genius57  MVP 
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2/13/2008 7:25 PM ET

They lost, and Hughes got 26...Beginning to happen more frequently...Just like I said..Give him more opportunuties..11-17..over 50%..No one else on the entire team shot more than 8 times..Lebron is starting to hog the ball...They need to spread the ball around more...
genius57  MVP 
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2/13/2008 10:53 PM ET

I would but before Gasol came, Kobes supporting cast was less talented and had wayy less experience than lebrons..Thats just the truth..A team with 2 bonefied 20 point scorers and close to 10 years each in the NBA does not need a 23 year old kid chucking up 30-35 shots a game!! Just about every viable player on that roster(besides Gibson) before last year have been through the NBA rigors..They are proven quality players..He acts like they are all rookies putting up all those shots..He did better playing with his team last year..And as far as the finals, bowen guarded him, but he left him alone for countless jumpshots..What did Lebron do? BRICK HOUSE!! Dont talk like he was breathing down his shirt or anything..Face it.. he choked...Cleveland...Pretenders..And kgreene, if it has to do with just percentages, why was Lebron still shooting in the finals when he couldnt make anything past 4 feet?
genius57  MVP 
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2/14/2008 9:04 AM ET

Your still wrong about everything you said in your last two posts, except for the finals. But hey, he was 22 years old on the biggest stage in basketball, alone. And you know what, he did alright with what he had against a dynasty with the best one-on-one defender in the league on him and Tim Duncan Gaurding the paint. Also dont try and make me out as baised when your exactly the same way with your savior Kobe, who has done what? Nothing, without your real savior Shaq. The Cavs have been riddled with injuries and LeBron knows when he needs to take over. If Kobe was in this position you'd be sucking his c0ck saying how with an injured roster he needs to take all the shots. Hughes is just starting to get on a roll, which is a great thing, but why do you think he is all of a sudden getting more shots? Maybe its because he's actually starting to make more than 36% of them. It has nothing to do with anybody being a ball hog, and to call LeBron that is insanity. But even if we were on the same team and you shot 36% I would want you taking alot of shots either. You don't know enough to be arguing about this. Your ramblings don't impress.
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/14/2008 9:15 AM ET

It's one thing to sound like you know what your talking about, it's another to actually know what your talking about.
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/14/2008 9:16 AM ET

Actually, youre not killing my points at all..those 2 20 point scorers have been in the NBA for 10 years or more..Just like I said..i didnt say the rest of the team was full of vets..those two are, and was playing NBA ball before Lebron even hit puberty..Give them more shots, and they will pay more dividends..Over 30 shots a game from a 23 year old and you have 2 potential all stars and perennial 20 point scorers on your team? Stupid...Thats why they are only 5 games over .500 now..In the east.. pathetic..Shoot a hole in that argument...How about this? Have lebron pass it into the post to start the games and develop the inside presence with Ilgauskas, let him get his touches and scores..Keep him interested..run a few plays for hughes, and lebron can get his whenever he wants..Ilgauskas often gets disinterested during the games because he doesent get enough touches..Look at his body language..lebron did better last year..He has been taking wayyy to many shots lately..all the spurs had to do was lock in on him, because he has done 1/2 their job for them by negating those two other players who are capable of making big shots themselves..duncan is the man for SA, but who killed you? Ginobili! because you dont know whats coming, duncan, or ginobili..And the funny part is hughes has that same type of game where he can create his own shots..Nope..lebron took all the shots down the stretch..completely forgot hughes even had 26 and was shooting over 50%...Youngsta..Kill that point...
genius57  MVP 
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2/14/2008 4:19 PM ET

Last season was Drew Gooden's 4th year, Varejo's 2nd year, Pavlovic's 3rd year (1rst year of getting any minutes), Gibson's 1rst year, and Eric Snow, who is the oldest veteran, has no offensive game what-so-ever. Some Veteran squad, huh? This year Hughes has been shooting very poorly, Ilguaskas is to old and can't play the minutes required to get 20 points. Varejo, Pavlovic, LeBron, Hughes, Gibson, Ilgauskas, and Gooden have all been injured. Some proven quality players who have been through the NBA's "rigors", can you please keep impressing me with your knowledgable comments. I love killing them. But you are right about the finals, he didn't do very well, I'll admit it. But, good thing he's learned from that and now he's even better. Developing jumpshot, lock down fourth quater defense, clutch shots and foul shots, i'm lovin Lebron this year.
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/14/2008 4:30 PM ET

Lebron sucked during finals,but this is just somthing for him to learn from. Jordan had hurdles to get over and it made him better. Only thing Kobe has learned Genius is that he needs the best supporting cast and best coach to get out of first round. Cleveland doesnt think this way,they like their chances in seven game series's. Lakers may be a chapionship contender but i would bet on Cleveland in a 7 game series. Kobe would get schooled by Lebron. Lebron is faster,stronger, more athletic, has better defensive potential,better passer, rebounder....and he makes Kobe look bad when they play.
Thelema  MVP 
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2/14/2008 8:08 PM ET

Best supporting cast? Gasol and Bynum..Best supporting cast? One all star? and a whole bunch of young players? How bout your Phoenix suns? Nash has had everybody.Marion,Stoudemire, Barbosa, Grant Hill, Tim Thomas, kurt Thomas,Raja Bell, Shaquille,Joe Johnson.How many more all stars can you buy? And you still lose..Lebron is bigger and more athletic, but he is by no means better than Kobe..he played well against him last time they played, but kobe had more rebs and more assts and shot over 50%..On the other hand Lebron had 41 points on 32 shots...Very effecient, dont you think? Wat about the olympics when kobe schooled lebron for the game winner, and what did lebron do? BRICK!! just like in the finals...P.S. Jordan needed the best coach too..He didnt win until Phil came to town...And in the east, Kobe would get ANY team out of the 1st round by himself..Thats the JV league...
genius57  MVP 
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2/14/2008 8:20 PM ET

I will shoot a hole in that argument. When that 23 year old kid who shoots too much was injured the Cavs went 0-6. I'll shoot a hole in the second part of your argument aswell HAHA! You make it to easy Genius! The Cavs start everygame and every half going to Z in the post. They try to establish him early. They have always done that! Another thing last year in the playoffs when you insisted that everyone was trash on the Lakers Kobe shot so many times it was ridiculous. I looked at averages and box scores and if my memory serves me correctly several of those games there were 7 or 8 Lakers who shot over 50%. Eat that. Please give me some more, i'm hungry!
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/15/2008 12:31 PM ET

Kobe only made 1/3rd of his shots in second half of that game genius. Lebron flat out killed him down the stretch.
Thelema  MVP 
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2/15/2008 1:22 PM ET

Ok ..eat this..the lakers had no one on their team who is capable of creating their own shots..Period..The lakers have no one who was comfortable creating their own shot..Cleveland on the other hand has hughes and Ilgauskas who has a history if scoring 20 points..Who pray tell on La has a history of creating his own shot and can score at will other than Kobe? Can he throw it down in the post and expext Kwame to score at will? Eat that..And you do go to Ilgauskas early, but not often.. He fades down the stretch not because hes tired, but hes not interested..Because whos taking all the shots? Lebron!! That ought to keep you full for a while..Thats why Kobe shot a lot and his teammates shot over 50% cause he was setting them up..Led the team in assts last year..Who on la can create their own shot ans shot over 50% Lebron doesent have that excuse, he has hughes..he just doesent use him right...Humble pie for your azz!! Im listening..Can odom? Vujacic, Wat about Smush Parker? Im listening..Maybe Kwame? Luke Walton,Turiaf? Maybe vladimir Radmonivic? You dont have enouth bullets to shoot holes in my argument, son..run along now...And you attacked PART of my argument, not all of it. Do they run plays for hughes? Thay sure need to..A two headed monster(Hughes, Lebron) is better than one..learn math..
genius57  MVP 
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2/15/2008 10:29 PM ET

What are you talking about, I've been killing your arguments up and down this page. You also must STOP refering to Hughes and Ilgauskas are legitiment 20 point scores. Z is just too old and begs Mike Bronwn to cut back his minutes. It's also not because he's bord. Do you think he's really bord with having a career year....I don't think so. As for Hughes, he has the potentail and has scored like that before, but he just has not been shooting the ball well. His mechanics were competely messed up and has just recently reconstructed his shot. This is why he is shooting the ball correctly and making shots. This is why he has scored more the past two weeks, this is why he now gets the ball more. Like you say, you have to make shots to earn them right? Thats how you feel about Kobe and his teammates, isn't it? (except LeBron shoots a higher percentage, so it's all good) LOL Also can you please keep talking like your winning this argument, it's quite amusing to me really.
kgreene03  MVP 
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2/15/2008 11:56 PM ET

The reason I refer to them as 20 point scorers is because at sometime in their career, they have been..just like i said, Up til we got Gasol, Kobe had to do more with less than anyone(Including Lebron) Lebron chooses not to use his players correctly for some reason..Kobe has to facilitate the offense with players who cannot create on their own..he is solely responsible for has baskets and the other players baskets on his team..I saw a stat a couple games ago on the boxscore..Everybody on the entire Cleveland team had no more than 8 attempts.Hughes was 11-17 but lebron shut him out of the offense in the 4th..(Even big Z who you said they get shots for early(lies)..lebron had 32..And he has no excuse because Hughes and Z can create a shot for themselves..Just because his J has gotten a little better doesent mean you should put up 30 shots a game with teammates who can score 20 if they get the chance..You can debate all you want with it, but thats the facts..Thats y youre only 5 games over .500 in the east...Some MVP..And you talk about Hughes mechanics? lebrons mechanics have been messed up his whole career!! Hes still shooting!! Why cant a all star caliber veteran get the same treatment? Tell Lebron to use his roster a lil bit..Ans P.S. I always win my arguments..Just face it, hes shooting too much..And just like I said earlier, thats why the Spurs beat your azz..If sometime in the 4th, Hughes gets attempts and Lebron does, they dont exactly know who to gear their defense towards..Like Duncan and Ginobili..You cant gear your defense towards one, because the other will kill you..when Lebron learns that, maybe they will beat the Spurs when it counts..And youre right, you have to earn shots, but dont you think Larry Hughes and Big Z have earned shots? Like I said, they were ballin when Lebron was goin through puberty..They both have averaged 20 a game before and both have been All stars!! sounds like they have earned shots to me..But obviously not to Lebron...LOL
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2/16/2008 10:57 AM ET

Hughs only scored 20 with the Wizards cause they had so many fast breaks.Gilbert,Hughs,and Dixon were all very good at stealing the ball.In the half court u must be a good shooter or fast and strong enough to get to the basket. Odom can score points on his own Genius!!! Smush PArker?hes not even on the Lakers. Great players make their teamates great, and who can we say Kobe has made great? Lebron has at least made Gibson and Big Z household names. Big Z is not uninterested, he just has more to his game then scoring...like getting offensive and defensive rebounds. Big Z is always doing smtg productive.
Thelema  MVP 
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2/16/2008 2:44 PM ET

Your completely wrong. Your also not going to win this argument, you just simply do not know enough about the Cavaliers, even if you think your some basketball encyclopieda, your not. Like I said, you deffinately sound like you know what your talking about, but it's another thing to actually know what your talking about. Sometimes I don't understand wear you get some of your insane views and opinions. You constantly contradict yourself and creat double standards. You talk about Kobe being a facilitor and LeBron taking too many shots. I don't have a response to this because it is complete INSANITY! LeBron does not shut people out of the offense. Again, I don't have a respnose because it is complete insanity. LeBron's teammates love him. They have been quoted up and down saying this. Also I will debate all I want, everything you say is a twisted around want you would like to be true. I give you facts, you give me your crazy opinions. Your also way to caught up in the past. You have to look and analyze how players are currently playing (or not playing) this year. I also won't keep responding to your bullsh!t about Hughes and Big Z being 20 scorers. I have responded to this in every post and you still do not have an answer for it. All you can say is that they used to be 20 point scorers. I don't care how players used to be, all that matters is how they are performing in the current season. The Cavs are only five games above .500 (wow, some actuall facts!). If all 8 of thier key players had not been injured for extended multiple times, I estimate that they would be up there with Detroit and Boston. I have already gone over the injuries which you also did not acknowledge because you don't have an answer for it. The Cavs have also done extremelty well against the Western Powerhouses, so don't try and act like they struggle against good teams. They beat San Antonio the first meeting at San Antonio. They've beat the Mavericks, and they have handed Kobes ass to him twice this season (not to mention 5 times in a row LMAO!!!). The Cavs have been just plain too injured and Hughes has not shot well enough to do what you think they should be doing. What your saying would be true if they had a completely healthy roster and Hughes was playing like the old Hughes. But they're not, the Cavs have been the most injured team this season. LeBron is doing the best he can with what little he has. Thats why he his NO.1 in the MVP race. Keep on coming, please. I have answers for all of your bullsh!t LOL!!!
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2/16/2008 3:05 PM ET

Gibson is a house hold name because hes a good Shooter!! Do you honestly think that Lebron could made Smush Parker a all star? What about the 3 point champ? Cmon..Face it..Cleveland had better players than LA..And Odom cant create his own shot..he can only go left and everybody knows it so they shade him to his right..Come again..And as usual, you mess up the argument..I said lebron was distributing the ball last year and you spoke how Kobe was shooting a lot last year.And with that said, kwame Brown and Smush Parker was on the roster last year..Your shut down again..get your facts straight before you argue youngsta...Cleveland had a great team..its not that hard to make them better..they all play great d, and HAVE PLAYERS WHO CAN CREATE THEMSELVES!! Lakers dont..Bring Lebron to La and he couldnt make those bums kobe had last year better..Period...Now I live in New Orleans so excuse me while I go party and enjoy the all star festivities why you hopelessly type about it on your computer...LOL And you said used to be? hughes just score 26 not a week ago..Is used to just yesterday? If im wrong, correct me..but im not...And cleveland has beaten us twice, but we are one the most banged up teams in the NBA.. And we play in the west and we are wayyy above .500 so whos the real MVP? And another fact that you did not acknowledge is that Lebron has had problems with his mechanics since hes been in the league? So why does he shoot wayyy more than Hughes? cause he sells sneakers? Simple and plain, either your coaching staff or Lebron himself ignores or doesent tap into that mans talent like they are supposed to..he should be getting 15 to 19 shots a game with leborn getting about 20-25..u heard of jordan and pippen? The same Situation...lebron isnt a good enough shooter to be chucking up 30-35 shots a game period..Especially when you have a proven vet like hughes..hes gonna wear himself out playing hero in the reg. season and when the playoffs roll around hes gonna get shi#ted on..No flukes this year..better get his supporting cast involved..Kobe finally got gasol..has he been chucking up 30 since? and the funny part is..lebrons been had hughes...
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2/16/2008 10:46 PM ET